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31/31 Day 5: Why All The Unnecessary Hate?

Hate is really such a strong word, it implies that there is absolutely no love whatsoever or any chance that you could ever forgive someone/something. Yet despite all this people on the internet "hate" things all the time. Now that word might not be legitimate, but scrolling through comments on several video game sites particularly on stories involving several of the larger games and publishers, it would seem that absolutely everything is inherently crappy with a product or service. In particular I'm talking about EA and Call Of Duty

It seems that at some point we gamers have forgotten that our tastes are not the tastes of other's, or that our opinion really truly matters at all given the sales numbers of these products. Yet despite that we'll head on out to our favorite sites and clamor and moan about how terrible a game is, and how we don't understand why people keep buying it, and then we'll complain about review scores. "Why does X game get a better review than Y game?" "This company is evil look what they did to Z publisher."

Truly we are entitled to our own opinions, but when your opinion comes off as some elitist "I comment on a video game site, over these people who don't" then you sound like an arrogant jerk. Quite frankly just because you don't like something, doesn't mean that everyone has to not like it as well, simply because something is "killing" video games doesn't mean that you'll only get bro fist bumping games from here to eternity. Call of Duty sales on top of Skylanders make it possible for Activision to finance smaller more "core" friendly games. EA pushing Bioware to add MP to Mass Effect 3 only helps bolster the companies earnings. Yet we decide that it must be some evil conspiracy to kill off our favorite hobby. 

Unless a game is truly disgusting or offensive to the moral foundation of someone, there should never be a reason for vitriol against the players of the games, or the games themselves. Two years ago Modern Warfare 2 was the greatest thing since sliced bread, now the mere mention of a new Call of Duty game draws groans and mumbles of oversaturation. The industry has been inflated for years before this latest sequel every year trend, the problem is that we failed to stop it.  When I hear of games like Max Payne 3 only selling 650K in its first month, Especially with gamers complaining about a lack of good games to play, I simply shake my head. Meanwhile basically unfinished and broken games like Skyrim top sales charts, because we continue to allow it. 

So why all the unnecessary hate? Because the consumer still continues to allow sales trends that violate the basic trust of their unwritten contract. If you continue to support, buy, and play the same games that release on a yearly cycle, then the same games will continue to sell. Meanwhile it seems that Max Payne will now truly be a man of the past, because gamers didn't give the guy a chance. In the end though we all hate the ones that we truly love, and we continue to do so unnecessarily because we can't stop allowing the abuse.

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  • I'm glad to hear someone else call Skyrim broken and unfinished. I'm not saying it's not fun, but Bethesda should have delayed the launch. Nice blog

  • I agree about Skyrim as well. That was horrible what Bethesda did, and they seem to have basically gotten off with it scot free. I was hating on that game a lot because everyone was giving them a pass when they should have been outraged. Imagine if this years COD comes out and your multiplayer stats get erased or the game lags if you play too much. The backlash would be huge. Anyways, I usually like COD. I have like 8 or 9 of them now. MW2 was crap at launch, but got better. My favorite has been BO so I'm looking forward to BO2, although I probably won't play it as much since AC3, Halo 4, and Dishonored are all out this fall too.
  • I think there are a lot of passionate gamers out there.  With passions comes love and hate.  Also, when someone buys a brand new game for $60, and it doesn't deliver in their eyes, it is easy to "hate" that game.

  • good blog, arrogant people all over the world need to read this

  • This is something I've thought about for awhile. It seems all everyone does is complain these days. Resident Evil 6, and Dead Space 3 are huge letdowns (even though they aren't out yet). The last five minutes of Mass Effect 3 completely destroyed the entire series, and anything with the Call of Duty name is the worst thing ever. I just don't get it. The only thing I disagree with is the part about Skyrim (unless you're talking about the PS3 version). Skyrim definitely released with some glitches, but I wouldn't call it broken, especially now since patches have fixed about all the main problems. The main reason I give Bethesda a pass, is because nobody does things on the scale that they do. I mean, how many games contain 300 hours of playtime, an insanely huge area, hundreds of NPCs with their own schedules, and countless dungeons and inside areas to explore?
  • I couldn't have said it better myself.  I might try to later, but I couldn't right now.  Very nice post.

  • Nice post. There is some serious stupid hate out there. I give skyrim a pass because there are some bugs that the devs don't see or think of till people start playing the game for real.

  • I'll be the first to admit, I am a very hateful person. I would honestly LOVE it if some people just dropped dead one day(I AM NOT A MURDERER THOUGH). But really, I don't 'Hate' too many games. Only really Kingdom Hearts and Call of Duty, but that's just all back to my personal preference. People can play CoD all they want. In fact, I don't even hate the game! I hate the people playing it! But with Kingdom Hearts I just hate it with all of my heart, I can't accept anyone playing that garbage. But I guess that's just my opinion. Plus, how are you going to hate a developer and refuse to buy their publisher's games? THERE IS ALWAYS ONE GAME YOU'LL LIKE. No doubt about it! I can't refuse to buy Activision's games! I can't refuse myself Square Enix's games(The older ones)!
  • I think a lot of the hate for video games out there comes from oversaturation, and/or the impression of an inferior product doing well. I'd compare the complaints people levy against the CoD series (there's a new one out every year, they're nothing original) to the success of the Twilight books and films. Some of my friends and tried to read the books, and most agree that they're just awful. And from the few minutes I caught of one of the films while channel surfing, the movies aren't much better. Yet, the books have sold a bajillion copies, and the films have grossed a ridiculous amount of money. Sadly, there's nothing we can do to change the opinion or taste of the masses. It's the same reason reality TV is invading evry channel's line-up and every film is now converted to 3d - millions of people will simply consume whatever is put in front of them, and those dollars trickle back up to idiots in suits who realize "hey, we can keep doing this for massive profit." Stepping away from games for a second, bear in mind that despite Christopher Nolan's amazing career, Inception almost didn't get made. Any industry driven by profit (i.e. all of them) is hesitant to change and new ideas, because it's far safer to keep turning a profit by doing what's already been done (see also: Zynga.) The best and probably only way to support good, original games (books, movies, musical artists, etc.) is to vote with your wallet. EA and DICE realized that there's no way to guarantee you'll cut into someone else's massive profits; the best you can do is increase the chances that people will also support your product, if it's worth supporting. BF3 didn't take sales away from MW3, but it did provide worthy competiton, and EA claimed a rather significant slice of the military FPS pie as a result.
  • Personally, I don't like all of this arrogant elitism either. But I have to say, it undoubtedly serves an important role in terms of feedback. How better for developers and publishers to learn how the feelings of the populace are trending, than to shout at them when you're passionate about something? Love and hate in the gaming world serve as two ends of this barometer, which in turn has a powerful influence on where the industry is headed.

    On a side note, I have to generally agree with Masterassassin regarding Skyrim. A game with a near-infinite number of variables like Skyrim can't reasonably be held to the same standard as your average game, which is far less complex and thus naturally far less prone to error. We are the ones who demanded that complexity; I'd argue that we owe it to the developer not to revile them for the consequences, especially when they've generally gone above and beyond to fix them.
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    Re: Skyrim, it's like a law of physics that a Bethesda game will have glitches in them, and considering how huge it is, I'd have to say that their criticism isn't exactly fair in some cases. You seem to be a pretty big fan of the Max Payne games. Unfortunately, the lack of sales can be probably be explained through the game's drastic new changes, which alienated hardcore fans of the series. In that sense I'd rather lay the blame on Rockstar.
  • I wrote something similar to this on my main blog a little while back and you hit every point that I tried to make myself.  It seems like certain people just can't accept that someone might like a game that they hate or vice versa.  Instead of accepting that, they call the person names and try to discredit them.  Same thing with game reviews.  I've seen Game Informer publish so many letters where people were complaining about a review, all I can do is smile anymore because it's so silly. "How could you rate this game better than that one?  It's the best game EVER!"

    My friend Mike exemplifies the difference between how I see some games and how he sees them.  When Enter the Matrix came out several years ago, I played it and just couldn't do it.  The gameplay was broken and there were so many bugs that it was unplayable, for me anyway.  My friend Mike?  He loved it.  He could play it for hours and even when the game fatally crashed on him, wiping out his save files, he just started over and wasn't fazed by it.

  • For those defending Skyrim I have to apologize but you are wrong. You do not get a pass because the game is so big you couldn't possibly make it complete. Considering that they sacrificed leveling systems, storyline, and gameplay from previous entries to make this game I'd say a pass is not warranted. If you're willing to give Skyrim a pass then you must also excuse every other game that comes out for being what it is as well. That is the point I made, and I stand by it.
  • If the point of this blog is to wag your finger at opinionated gamers who give games unnecessary hate, why would you use it hate on Skyrim, a game that people everywhere love?
  • A lot of the hate that you see is a result of the fact that people can comment on the internet anonymously. I can say stuff that I would never say if people knew whom I was.  This is not limited to video games either.  How many racist, homophobic, and generally hateful comments do you see on websites.  Many people, even if they sincerely hold these views, would never actually espouse them publicly if their identities were known.

    I think that there is also, when it comes to video games and other forms of entertainment, a notion from the fans that the product belongs to them.  In fact, however, the fan really just is a consumer of the product.  This means that a consumer has a right to complain about defective products, like say the bugs in Skyrim.  Consumers should demand that fixes be made for these problems.  However, its getting to the point where the fans are taking things to an unfathomable level.  People threatening reviewers that gave the Dark Knight Rises a bad movie review, or freaking out over a bad video game review.  Then, if a game like COD gets a good review, it is only because the reviewer was paid off.  

    This is a bunch of people that think that their opinion is always right and anyone who disagrees is an idiot.  I have had people call me an idiot because I actually really liked the ME3 ending.  I thought from an intellectual and philosophical standpoint, it was really well done.  I can understand, however, that the ending is not for everyone and do not think that those that hated it are stupid.  Unfortunately, many have no respect for differing opinions, and anonymity of commenting on the internet allows them to scream out their opinions and bash anyone who disagrees with them.

  • You kind of contradicted yourself on the fact that there is an unneccesary amount of hate in the gaming industy and then continue to insinuate that people who bought Skyrim were supporting faulty business practices simply because the game's glitches weren't a dealbreaker for them.  If your don't like Skyrim for it's glitches or or whatever that's fine, but don't bring unneccesary hate upon those who had a higher threshold than you (and there is nothing wrong with having a lower threshold) for bugs.

  • Great blog; way to call attention to the issue at hand. Hope to see more from you like this. Great introspective piece of writing.

  • I have to disagree with the Skyrim comment. I don't know what you call "unfinished and broken," but it sure as hell wasn't Skyrim. It did have problems, sure, but it was FAR from unfinished. Also, you have to consider the scope of what they were going for. Whereas MW2 was going for upgraded MW1, Skyrim was going all out bigger and better than any other Bethesda RPG to date. New engine, new systems, new additions. Also, you call out haters, then hate on Skyrim. Well, you weren't hating on it, but the fact that you didn't like the leveling system and other things is your OPINION. Not fact. Also, saying that if games with glitches like Skyrim get tens then why shouldn't Mario Party 9 is a completely stupid argument. One, they are two different genres. Two, Mario Party is intended for children. Skyrim is for older teens and adults. I'm sorry if this got really ranty, and I applaud you for sticking to your opinion where others wouldn't, but calling Skyrim an "unfinished and broken" game is really, really stupid.
  • Skyrim was not the perfect game everyone called it. Thanks for saying it.